tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.comments2023-10-07T04:06:40.018-05:00Save OBUAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15050790418399919111noreply@blogger.comBlogger630125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-25092917708987576212014-09-24T23:57:14.330-05:002014-09-24T23:57:14.330-05:00Well spoken explanation. Thank for the conversatio...Well spoken explanation. Thank for the conversation you started!Erin and Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08355771582852161020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-1284279793722299662014-02-09T13:47:02.431-06:002014-02-09T13:47:02.431-06:00Many of us have let it be know through the power o...Many of us have let it be know through the power of the donation (or lack of it). I think the message is getting through...or would like to think so...money talks etcJ.Michael Pontioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04734959480068059937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-1443887440873564062014-02-08T12:01:46.515-06:002014-02-08T12:01:46.515-06:00I don't know how anyone reared by a village (c...I don't know how anyone reared by a village (church) of real deal Christians of sound Baptist and not too right wing theology can think the seminary evolution from appx 1980 til now is positive. I had my head buried in the sand teaching children's Sunday school for years, and emerged to find Calvinism in the SBC which is directly related to the seminaries. I'm probably leaving the Baptist Church. TeeMachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05398123298543769351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-44686058936057048222013-12-06T16:30:26.760-06:002013-12-06T16:30:26.760-06:00Of course he has said a lot of things that most of...Of course he has said a lot of things that most of us would not say that are not directly related to the testimony issue. :)Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-68497486561649385912013-12-06T16:26:06.350-06:002013-12-06T16:26:06.350-06:00I don't understand why EC is called "cont...I don't understand why EC is called "controversial." He simply altered his testimony after 9-11 so that it would fit with the needs of the SBC people he worked with and benefit himself. This is recognized by all and acknowledged by most. The issue is whether this is a matter of importance. Apparently the trustees at B-P C don't feel that it is.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-58956119221616166922013-09-23T17:40:50.059-05:002013-09-23T17:40:50.059-05:00Hi, Anonymous.
The math is pretty simple. Let'...Hi, Anonymous.<br /><br />The math is pretty simple. Let's say there are 25,000 OBU alumni. The HHS Mandate polled about 40%. Let's be generous and say that among white evangelicals, that number was only 20%. (Of course, not all OBU alumni are white evangelicals, but for the sake of discussion I'll grant that it might be a reasonable approximation.) That means that something like 5,000 OBU alumni support the HHS Mandate. I bet that's a conservative estimate (no pun intended).<br /><br />No one is denying OBU's evangelical or Baptist identity. I would love to hear your ideas about what "truths of scripture" are at issue in this lawsuit. Unless you have replaced the Bible with the Republican Party platform. You wouldn't be the first so-called Baptist to have done so.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15050790418399919111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-23172381794294317202013-09-23T15:42:24.289-05:002013-09-23T15:42:24.289-05:00"For one thing, it is needlessly divisive. W..."For one thing, it is needlessly divisive. While many alumni/ae are no doubt supportive of OBU's lawsuit, thousands of alumni/ae will be disappointed and angry."<br />I would love to see your proof that thousands of alumni are against OBU's actions against the "abortion pill mandate". <br />I'll remind you. OBU is a EVANGELICAL, Southern Baptist University. Its primary responsiblity is to teach the truths of scripture, period!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-38593866871666110552013-09-19T09:19:04.600-05:002013-09-19T09:19:04.600-05:00Jacob and those like him are seeking to make OBU a...Jacob and those like him are seeking to make OBU a liberal thinking pot. Is OBU perfect? No. Is it a great institution? Yes. I recently visited OBU and from what I could tell, it's on the right track.<br />Also, femenism has no place at OBU. Femenism is what has destroyed manhood and womanhood. Oops, guess that was a controversial statement. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-53289200833629169002013-09-17T11:49:26.451-05:002013-09-17T11:49:26.451-05:00Yeah, I understand that Dr. Patterson likes his fu...Yeah, I understand that Dr. Patterson likes his fundamentalists, but not his Calvinists. Our point, to reiterate, is that under the usual norms and procedures under which OBU's religion/ministry department operated for decades, there's no way this unilateral hire would have ever been made.<br /><br />Dean McClellan is stacking the deck with fundamentalists, so he may be able to return to a more collaborative hiring process soon. Everyone knows that he, Provost Norman, President Whitlock, and Dr. Jordan would fire the 2-4 remaining moderate professors tomorrow if they thought they could get away with it.<br /><br />Because of the push-back against the previous two unethical dismissals (in 2010 and 2011), the new leadership will just have to wait for the remaining moderates to retire or die. But make no mistake: They will eventually be replaced with fundamentalists. I'm pretty sure we have already lost this battle.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15050790418399919111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-40377990698535564272013-09-13T11:28:22.831-05:002013-09-13T11:28:22.831-05:00An unbeliever with "abhorrent and inhuman&quo...An unbeliever with "abhorrent and inhuman" behavior"? Imagine that? You'd almost think that a guy has to be Godly before he "obeys the word". Apparently feminist standards are "higher" than God's standards.<br /><br />Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. <br />(1Pe 3:1-2)<br />Arthur Isaachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12432379222331605220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-14065129361867080062013-09-13T11:07:36.830-05:002013-09-13T11:07:36.830-05:00Mudliar left SWBTS because he is Reformed in his t...Mudliar left SWBTS because he is Reformed in his theology. As McClellan, to the best of my knowledge, is also Reformed, I believe this had more to do with his hiring. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460302405983971286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-48958457569375240322013-09-13T10:19:37.664-05:002013-09-13T10:19:37.664-05:00I graduated from Union the year prior to Dockery c...I graduated from Union the year prior to Dockery coming in as president. Union has always been a theologically conservative institution throughout every department. What has enabled Unions great reputation is that it has high academic standards throughout the University and a high percentage of its graduates go on to attend top notch Graduate programs. The year I graduated their SIFE team defeated Harvard; a great victory for UU and I am sure an embarrassment for Harvard Business. <br /><br />What Dockery has done during his tenure is attracted top notch professors to work in all Departments and Schools while also requiring those professors to adhere to the Orthodox Baptist Faith. This year, my sister-in-law graduated from their brand new Nurse Anesthetist program which is rapidly becoming one of the best in the country. What UU has done, in contrast to, lets say, Baylor, is show that a Christian University can be academically rigorous without selling its soul or its faith. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460302405983971286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-26369975718971853272013-09-03T13:24:31.139-05:002013-09-03T13:24:31.139-05:00Define moderate? I've never really understood ...Define moderate? I've never really understood the term. How about Liberal? In other words, someone who denies the authority and inherency of scripture. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-55334694937048336912013-09-02T21:20:41.723-05:002013-09-02T21:20:41.723-05:00Huffingtonpost recently ran an article about a Tit...Huffingtonpost recently ran an article about a Title IX investigation regarding sexual assault reporting at Cedarville. <br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/cedarville-university-investigation_n_3665361.htmlAndrew W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08555203929806901873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-36652543436323140352013-09-01T01:38:33.939-05:002013-09-01T01:38:33.939-05:00[Hello SO. Check this out - what I ran into while ...[Hello SO. Check this out - what I ran into while webbing away!]<br /><br />Just wondering if Dr. Patterson and other dispy SBC leaders have ever Googled "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "Pretrib Rapture Pride," and "Pretrib Rapture Stealth." The last item has enough passages from Acts etc. to blow the pretrib rapture all the way back to 1830 and to the doorstep in Scotland of Margaret Macdonald!Irvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07634792243846422285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-43589297726142403072013-09-01T00:47:49.927-05:002013-09-01T00:47:49.927-05:00[Saw this goodie on the net, for what it may be wo...[Saw this goodie on the net, for what it may be worth.]<br /><br />Just wondering if Dr. Patterson and other dispy SBC leaders have ever Googled "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "Pretrib Rapture Pride," and "Pretrib Rapture Stealth." The last item has enough passages from Acts etc. to blow the pretrib rapture all the way back to 1830 and to the doorstep in Scotland of Margaret Macdonald!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-64036829584713238072013-08-27T12:57:18.722-05:002013-08-27T12:57:18.722-05:00Sarah,
Wow. I'm not an alumnus of CU or OBU, ...Sarah,<br />Wow. I'm not an alumnus of CU or OBU, but I had a couple of classes taught by David Robey at TTU in Chattanooga. I knew he went to CU in 1980. So glad I ditched the fundamentalist / dispensationalist nonsense 25+ years ago. Also glad that there is more and more exposure of the hypocrisy and coverups within fundamentalism. Keep up the good work.<br /><br />- BobBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-343267866357357362013-08-27T10:55:16.416-05:002013-08-27T10:55:16.416-05:00Uh oh, an anonymous comment. Those aren't welc...Uh oh, an anonymous comment. Those aren't welcome here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-82616460032584554012013-08-27T10:50:06.667-05:002013-08-27T10:50:06.667-05:00Jacob in Oklahoma the convention is not becoming &...Jacob in Oklahoma the convention is not becoming "fundi" as you say. It has always been very conservative and OBU is now lining up more with where the churches in the state are. If anything if OBU goes the way you want then it is the moderates coming in and stealing schoolsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-66392469475504744482013-08-07T18:29:49.322-05:002013-08-07T18:29:49.322-05:00No one is saying that. Not me. Not anyone.No one is saying that. Not me. Not anyone.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15050790418399919111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-43962595218847560332013-08-07T18:15:38.498-05:002013-08-07T18:15:38.498-05:00OBU needs to allow homosexual professors to level ...OBU needs to allow homosexual professors to level out the playing field. They need professors who deny the authority of scripture and who are universalist. Would you agree Jacob?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-91582644624350687722013-07-23T11:35:01.612-05:002013-07-23T11:35:01.612-05:00I have gas because I read this blog.I have gas because I read this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-67755863193346148712013-07-21T00:39:16.701-05:002013-07-21T00:39:16.701-05:00As a current student of Dr. White's former pla...As a current student of Dr. White's former place of employment I can tell you he is bringing many of his lieutenant's to CU. One of them will be the new VP Student Affairs and they have no admin experience at all at that level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-75226472979951530992013-06-11T15:21:52.160-05:002013-06-11T15:21:52.160-05:00ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524895972705575613.post-15676687408521459652013-06-07T10:17:01.446-05:002013-06-07T10:17:01.446-05:00Obviously I do not hold Christian apologetics in h...Obviously I do not hold Christian apologetics in high regard as an academic discipline.<br /><br />But if you want to talk about spiteful, let's look at what the administrators did to the philosophy division and to John Mullen. They hassled him for doubting the young earth hypothesis. Then they denied him the opportunity to stand for Senior Faculty Status even though it was his right under the Faculty Handbook to do so. They unilaterally redirected the division toward apologetics without the customary (required?) consultation of faculty in the department. They said that, in spite of overall enrollment growth, interest in philosophy classes was low. Then they canned Mullen and replaced him with a specialist in Christian apologetics.<br /><br />Three recently retired OBU professors complied a huge dossier documenting these and other missteps in the Mullen fiasco.<br /><br />So the administration's intentions are actually pretty easy to prove, in this case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15050790418399919111noreply@blogger.com